Ive only been drinking coffee for a month, all espresso/latte/caps. Now want to make regular coffee so can better appreciate some of the coffees I have bought. As I understand it, a gesha or blue mountain or whatever is partially wasted on espresso, and I will get a different experience with regular coffee. So I bought a clever dripper. But, I have no idea what grind setting to use, or even what regular coffee grinds look like. Now, I understand that apparently the Mazzer Mini electric numbers dont correlate from machine to machine (but I dont see why they havent fixed that, seems easy to me, must be lazy about updating). Anyway, I know I have the right grind setting for espresso, typically close to 5.65 for most beans. Now, im guessing coffee should be ground around 8ish for a difference of 2.35. That difference should be constant from machine to machine as the threads are always the same spacing. What is the difference on your mazzer mini between espresso and clever dripper settings? And what is the grinder setting difference for the aeropress, hario v60, and french press?