Mikto wrote:Hello Everyone,
This is my first post, unfortunately I have no espresso machine but I am looking for one.
I think now I can ask you what to do, after I learnt a lot here.
I am thinking about these machines, which are affordable for me.
Zacconi Riviera full Chrome/Steel 1970 vs Elektra Micro Casa 1980 Copper & Brass vs Microcimbali Liberty vs Pedretti Kim Express v2.1
Which one can make better espresso?
Which one is more durable?
Which is easy to manage, fix and change seals?
Do you have information about the basket size?
Can I add Thermostat to Pedretti Kim Express?
Which one can make oily espresso?
Thanks for you all.
I've owned or own Zacconi Riviera and Pedretti Kim.
Zacconi Riviera - Well built machine made of good materials. All brass ++. Small group 45mm. Great for those who like ristretto shots. Difficult to get parts since new Zacconi has new group and new owners.
Mcal (Elektra M.C.) - never had one. Read some issues with pitting \ perforation in boiler and maybe group. Nice in cup once dialed in. Some pre 2005 parts availability issues.
Microcimbali Liberty - Nice looking machine but prone to aluminum boiler pitting.
Pedretti Kim Express - Own one also aluminum boiler. Brass lined group. My 1970 came with aluminum spring and piston which were pitted and replaced with all brass version. Parts hard to come by. Kit available from Francesco. These use a 58mm basket. No sight glass or pressure gauge.
Consider vintage La Pavoni Europiccola machines. I prefer addition of pressure gauge \ manometer. Easy to add on with 12mm adapter. Parts still available from varying third party suppliers. Not spring assisted.
See here for basket sizes. http://www.fareastcomponents.net/basesizechart.htm