I am not sure if I missed a post, but I haven't detected any interest in this thread in Nino. Any reasons for that? Company has credibility, it is doserless grinder, conical, relatively low RPM, looks solidly build to last at least for couple of decades. Why that cold shoulder then?

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Interesting and genuine reading, BTW.


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From what I hear it's a fantastic grinder.

however, Two things instantly come up
1- highest priced grinder in its class
2- 220V

I bet a lot of people instead grab the robur, k10 or the other cheaper titan conical. I don't see people using this 2k+ at home. But at a cafe, yea. It's too expensive.

benhogan wrote:From what I hear it's a fantastic grinder.

however, Two things instantly come up
1- highest priced grinder in its class
2- 220V

Add to this no pulsed grinding or timed settings below 1s.

jsolanzo wrote:I bet a lot of people instead grab the robur, k10 or the other cheaper titan conical. I don't see people using this 2k+ at home. But at a cafe, yea. It's too expensive.

From memory, several posters who had experience with both, Robur was not favored much for home use (due to its size, purging waste). Single dosing I thought was Nino's forte. Price wise there is no mercy in buying either, and some prices seen on the internet put both printers to $2.5 k ballpark. So, question remains, what's the problem, other than perhaps Mazzers are better PR profiled? I hope I am wrong, but that's the only reason I can come up with.


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Elektra might be its own worst enemy; who knows. Some time ago I did place an enquiry directly to their sales office about sourcing their machines in Europe, and response was slow in coming and not very friendly either. I work often in Japan, and perhaps my expectations regarding sales responses are different.

Milan? Forgive me, but you apparently missed the 55-page long thread on the
Elektra Nino Grinder, which was begun on May 25, 2007 and concluded only one month ago, on November 25, 2011.

Cheers,
Jason

Well not really. It is a fact that I have not entered that thread recently, but I was there frequent visitor in the past. My post of today was added initially to an old thread on "upgraditis(?)", and after I did not find anyone tending any love for Nino; all upgrades love songs were just after the usual suspects, which arose my curiosity - what's wrong with Nino?

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(Dan just gave my post little prominence by kicking it on the open).

Ah,well . . . have you read Elektra Nino owners: Can it beat the Robur?

I can only speak for myself, in that I was one of the people looking seriously at getting a Nino once upon a time. (I thought it would be cool to have an Elektra Nino next to my Elektra T1.) Given that I live in the US, and the Nino only came in 240v, the idea was a non-starter. But several others in the US put together a "group buy," and were happy with it -- up to a point. Indeed, Nicholas Lundgaard ("shadowfax") sold his, and replaced it with a Compak K10WBC. You can ask him why he sold it.

Can't speak for Canada, but here in the US, the Elektra Nino sells for $2,460, versus

-- $1,530 for the Mahlkönig K30 Vario (which is what I ended up getting, and love it!);
-- $1,946 for the Compak K10 Fresh; and/or,
-- $1,949 for the Mazzer Kony-E.

Cheers,
Jason

Voltage is perhaps minor drawback for those, who really want that machine; at least that's my guess. In terms of cash, I also though that people who are willing to lay out $2k for a grinder, probably can scratch $3k just as well. I went back to Nino thread, and at the end there are some operational issues described, which probably should receive attention from Elektra mgt. in a hurry.

The point is that -- regardless of how good a grinder it is (or isn't) -- there are other grinders out there which are equally as good if not better, which cost less, which do not cost an extra $1,000 (which, BTW, not everyone can "scratch just as well"), and which will run on North American current, rather than necessitating the purchase of another piece of a equipment, namely a voltage converter.