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Postby Spencer on Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:21 pm

On some other threads in the Tips & Techniques Forum there has been discussion of a Monster Bricc project that Malachi has been working on. Its supposed to be out in January. Its under Thin & Blonding and the following is a quote from one of Malachi's posts:

"On a side note - In the next few weeks I will be collaborating with a vendor involved in this site on a system/modification to allow for FAR easier and more accurate brew temp management on the Bricc (and other machines similar to it).
This project is code-named Monster Bricc and is part of the Monster Cafe plan.
It will actually include some other mods and customizations as well.
When ready, I will post a big history, timeline, photos and information about the project and the results.
With luck - this will become a possible offering for others as part of a modification and customization service."

I've been running the Bricc (direct plumb, lever) and a Cimbali Jr. grinder on a 20 amp circuit that runs more than just the grinder and Bricc and haven't had a problem.

Good luck.
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Postby miKe mcKoffee on Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:37 pm

Spencer wrote:I've been running the Bricc (direct plumb, lever) and a Cimballi Jr. grinder on a 20 amp circuit that runs more than just the grinder and Bricc and haven't had a problem.

Good luck.

That's good to know. I still have the feeling that if the Bric' happens to be pulling a shot and boiler in heating mode and nuker used at the same time it's gonna trip. 1100w nuker = about 10A and 1900w Bric about 17A. I will of course test the scenario after my Bric' arrives this coming Friday!
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Postby anim57 on Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:35 pm

I wanted to let everyone who weighed in on my decision-making process know that this morning I bought a La Spaziale S1 and a MACAP M4 from Chris @ Chris's Coffee. I wouldn't have bought either of these w/o the input of you guys.

I really appreciate it!

BTW, Chris is AWESOME! Of course, based on the feedback in these forums, I knew he would be.

And Mike, as for your offer:

If you want to wait a week or so my Bric' will be here so you could check out in person, across the river in Vancouver WA.


I'll let you try out my S1 if you let me try out your Bricc :D

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Postby malachi on Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:44 pm

Ummm... Mike... you might want to take the Microwave off that circuit.
Seriously.
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Postby miKe mcKoffee on Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:06 pm

malachi wrote:Ummm... Mike... you might want to take the Microwave off that circuit.
Seriously.

Yeah, I know. The power requirements of the Bric' was the primary thing that delayed me accepting Chris's offer for a full day! Unfortunately moving the Nuker to another circuit is not an option. (SO factor and kitchen layout) And placement of the Bric' is pretty much set in stone on the counter right side of the sink. Temporarily I'll likely run a short heavy gauge ext cord from the left side of the sink outlets (which are on the kitchen's other 20A circuit) to the Bric' until I have a new dedicated circuit run, easier than remembering to turn off Bric' before using Nuker (Pretty much guarantee Debi wouldn't remember and would not be happy.) Don't use the Nuker a lot but enough for re-heating or cooking frozen veggies would kill WAF. Though left circuit may pose a different power problem, haven't checked the fridge's pull and occasionally used toaster oven... Real solution of course dedicated circuit.

I do have two 20A dedicated circuits I added for outdoor Christmas lights. I could run a 12 gauge contruction extension cord from the garage through the cat door into the den through the dining area into the kitchen. Yeah, that would work. Yeah right, maybe if I was single! And of course still couldn't use the Bric' during the evening the entire month of December! Bad enough I have to remember not to roast coffee while the Christmas lights are on or turn off the lights first... (was roasting off the washing machines 20A but switched when I added the new Christmas circuits a few years ago)
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Postby Balthazar_B on Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:10 pm

Wow, Mike, now I'm really glad I ordered the Vetrano :wink: .
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Postby miKe mcKoffee on Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:58 pm

Balthazar_B wrote:Wow, Mike, now I'm really glad I ordered the Vetrano :wink: .

Chris made me an offer I coudn't refuse :!: (even with the power issues :roll: )
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Postby malachi on Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:15 pm

Out of curiosity... how real are these perceived power issues with the Briccoletta? Has anyone actually run into trouble?
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Postby miKe mcKoffee on Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:43 pm

malachi wrote:Out of curiosity... how real are these perceived power issues with the Briccoletta? Has anyone actually run into trouble?

As real as overloading any circuit regardless what appliances doing the overloading! 1st-Line lists the Bric' as 1900w 110v which would suck up 17.27A when fully engaged. Doesn't leave a lot of head room on a 20A circuit. Depending of the strength of the breaker sure can go slightly over for varying brief time periods.

I have no doubt that if I attempted to pull a shot and steam simulteously AND Debi kicked on the Nuker circuit would trip, it should! But maybe I'll get lucky and the circuit will handle brief overloads. Checked the fridge, 8.3A rating (max would be when compressor engaged & icemaker dumping simultanesouly & door opened turning on its lights) so that circuit out of the equation too.
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Postby malachi on Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:05 pm

I know the theory - I'm just wondering it this has actually happened to anyone.
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