Vesuvius 2 pressure profiling
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Does anyone have the new version of the Vesuvius if so ... I would like to know how is it performing with the new pressure profiling and is it worth that much $$$ all i read is positive thing is there any negative concern in the long run.
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When you say the new version you mean the one with stainless steel internals or they came out with a newer version recently?
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Has anyone tested the Vesuvius 2 for personal use?
Need some opinions before purchasing.
Thanks
Need some opinions before purchasing.
Thanks
- tohenk2
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The version 1 and 2 are not that different. Programming, pump, tanks, isolation, body, display etc. are all the same.
Basically all comments made for pressure profiling on the Vesuvius version 1 apply to the Vesuvius version 2 since there are no changes to the programming or parts that might influence this.
This machine still beats most other pump driven machines, certainly in terms of "bang for the buck".
Differences between V1 and V2:
- the V2 has a more robust vacuum breaker (small inexpensive change, but definitely better - mine was changed under warranty to the more robust one)
- the PTFE-pipes from the V1 are replaced by metal pipes on the V2 (more traditional, not necessarily better.)
- the water detection system is now wired to the water tank
- the naked portafilter is now standard
I love my Vesuvius, and would like to say "Buy one!" But since you look for advice ...
- if your only goal is to mimic a lever profile - you might want to think about buying a lever machine.
-- if you have other goals than to mimic a lever profile then you should think about manual control versus control via programming (7 steps in a profile, you can switch on the fly between profiles).
--- if you want manual control, you want to look at a new model GS3 or a Slayer or maybe a Speedster.
--- if you like the idea of repeatability via profiles, then this is (still) the best single group machine in my opinion (biased - I own one).
The Steam Knife foam tip is something a lot of people put on afterwards (it is also used on other machines, so this is not for the Vesuvius alone). From personal experience, it works crazy fast and produces great microfoam.
Basically all comments made for pressure profiling on the Vesuvius version 1 apply to the Vesuvius version 2 since there are no changes to the programming or parts that might influence this.
This machine still beats most other pump driven machines, certainly in terms of "bang for the buck".
Differences between V1 and V2:
- the V2 has a more robust vacuum breaker (small inexpensive change, but definitely better - mine was changed under warranty to the more robust one)
- the PTFE-pipes from the V1 are replaced by metal pipes on the V2 (more traditional, not necessarily better.)
- the water detection system is now wired to the water tank
- the naked portafilter is now standard
I love my Vesuvius, and would like to say "Buy one!" But since you look for advice ...
- if your only goal is to mimic a lever profile - you might want to think about buying a lever machine.
-- if you have other goals than to mimic a lever profile then you should think about manual control versus control via programming (7 steps in a profile, you can switch on the fly between profiles).
--- if you want manual control, you want to look at a new model GS3 or a Slayer or maybe a Speedster.
--- if you like the idea of repeatability via profiles, then this is (still) the best single group machine in my opinion (biased - I own one).
The Steam Knife foam tip is something a lot of people put on afterwards (it is also used on other machines, so this is not for the Vesuvius alone). From personal experience, it works crazy fast and produces great microfoam.
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vesuvius, quick mill or the new rocket 60 ? they are close in price, all in the same class. I would love everyone's input since I want to pull the trigger on one of them. Also off topic, which grinder would you pair it with? Mahlkonig k30 worth the investment for home use? Anything else that's quiet, fast, well built, for non commercial use... ?
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The Rocket R60 is internally completely different from a Vesuvius. It uses a different pump and a stepper motor to profile the pressure. Etc. Etc. And it has less steps and less profiles than the Vesuvius. All in all I think the Vesuvius is the better machine, but then that is the machine that I own ...
At this point in time I would look at the Sette that grinds very well - certainly if you consider it's price. The K30 is a much used grinder and delivers a good grind as do a lot of others in that price range. As with anything - whether you think the investment is worth it is up to you. Does it fit your workflow? (I don't use a hopper anymore and single dose for instance) Do you taste a difference between grinders? Do you have the money? Do you like it? (Does your better half like it? Some people do not like the Sette because of the plastics used...) If you go for the top - the EK43, Compak R120, Monolith (both conical and flat) or an EG-1 come to mind.
At this point in time I would look at the Sette that grinds very well - certainly if you consider it's price. The K30 is a much used grinder and delivers a good grind as do a lot of others in that price range. As with anything - whether you think the investment is worth it is up to you. Does it fit your workflow? (I don't use a hopper anymore and single dose for instance) Do you taste a difference between grinders? Do you have the money? Do you like it? (Does your better half like it? Some people do not like the Sette because of the plastics used...) If you go for the top - the EK43, Compak R120, Monolith (both conical and flat) or an EG-1 come to mind.
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Thank you. Good answers. I don't know much about either the rocket or the Vesuvius. You could taste grinders if you eat coffee grounds plain without hot water flowing trough them some people have the rule of buying their equipment kind of like "do not overkill your grinder with a very expensive machine". Or "Buy your grinder first and then see what machine you can afford after" which I agree with.
I don't want to be the guy in the picture below either...
I don't want to be the guy in the picture below either...
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I have had the Vesuvius v1 for the last year and absolutely love it.
The machine was however damaged during a recent overseas relocation and the insurance has offered me 4500 USD to buy a replacement machine . I have to say that I quickly researched the market to get an update on the latest machines (Rocket r60v, GS3 Strada, GS3 AV/MP) but came to the conclusion that no machines could stir me away from the Vesuvius. So I will be buying the Vesuvius again, with a certain pleasure. I will be receiving the Vesuvius V2 in about 7 days from now and could answer any of your questions if needed.
Thanks!
The machine was however damaged during a recent overseas relocation and the insurance has offered me 4500 USD to buy a replacement machine . I have to say that I quickly researched the market to get an update on the latest machines (Rocket r60v, GS3 Strada, GS3 AV/MP) but came to the conclusion that no machines could stir me away from the Vesuvius. So I will be buying the Vesuvius again, with a certain pleasure. I will be receiving the Vesuvius V2 in about 7 days from now and could answer any of your questions if needed.
Thanks!
"Success is something you attract by the person you become.” -- Jim Rohn
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Any thoughts on V2 vs V1 so far?newrevolution123 wrote:I will be receiving the Vesuvius V2 in about 7 days from now and could answer any of your questions if needed.
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Hi there,
There has been a delay in the production in the factory so I am still waiting for the machine - which is OK. It is currently being shipped by DHL from Naples, Italy to Dublin, Ireland but the shipment is again affected by national holidays in Italy (Friday) and Ireland (Monday).
Paolo Cortese, owner of ACS, said that the delay was explained by a relatively busy period and also by the fact there were waiting to receive display parts from their supplier. I will check if the new display is different from the v1 and see its reliability and responsiveness improved in any way. So please give me another day or two and I will report back !
There has been a delay in the production in the factory so I am still waiting for the machine - which is OK. It is currently being shipped by DHL from Naples, Italy to Dublin, Ireland but the shipment is again affected by national holidays in Italy (Friday) and Ireland (Monday).
Paolo Cortese, owner of ACS, said that the delay was explained by a relatively busy period and also by the fact there were waiting to receive display parts from their supplier. I will check if the new display is different from the v1 and see its reliability and responsiveness improved in any way. So please give me another day or two and I will report back !
"Success is something you attract by the person you become.” -- Jim Rohn