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Semi-commercial/commercial espresso machine for home and future business

Postby Ericg13 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:31 pm

I'm looking to purchase a semi commercial machine that I could one day use in a future business but would primarily be in my home for the next half/full year. 2 groupheads would be nice but not necessary at this point. I would like to be able to pull shots and steam milk at the same time if possible or shortly afterwards. Something aesthetically appealing as well as built like a tank. If I leave it on 24 hours a day or start using it quite a bit more than usual I don't want to have to replace gaskets and other parts all the time. I don't really have a set price range set but something under $6000 would be great.
let me know what you guys think.
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Postby Ericg13 on Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:34 pm

No luck!
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Postby hperry on Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:51 am

Ericg13 wrote:No luck!


You would need to provide a lot more information about your future business model in order to receive good feedback on this question. At the suggested price point there would be a number of options, but the question is not sufficiently focused to be able to answer it.
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Postby Ericg13 on Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:16 am

Sorry about that, basically i would be keeping the machine in home use until I get my business up and running. The business is going be a record store first and then slowly turn it in to a record store and coffee shop. I don't imagine there is going to be a high output of espresso/caps/latte's for the first year or even two. perhaps 15-50 a day. Eventually if there is more demand I would upgrade as needed. I would like to have a leg up on all the competition with the quality of my espresso drinks. There are really only a handful of places that make a real quality espresso. anyways i hope that helps a bit
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Postby HB on Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:06 am

For ease of use, I would restrict my search to double boiler espresso machines. Since a commercial installation is a consideration, I would further restrict my search to ETL/NSF-approved equipment. The La Spaziale Vivaldi II and La Marzocco GS/3 fit the bill and are well represented in formal and user reviews. Pair one of these choices with a top-end commercial grinder, e.g., Mazzer Super Jolly, Cimbali Max, or Compak K10.
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Postby Ericg13 on Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:36 am

That's what I was thinking. It seems as though the GS/3 might be out of my price range and isn't all that much better than the Vivaldi II. I've already got a cimbali jr. grinder so I guess I am halfway there.
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Postby mitch236 on Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:02 pm

If you don't mind buying used, I've seen a Linea 2group with PID and Piero group mods for around $3000. Granted, it's large and a power hog but for use as a commercial machine, it would excel. I've seen quite a few Linea restorations that look like new for bargain prices. The good thing about LM is that parts are readily available and service is usually easy.
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Postby erics on Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:07 pm

Here is a nice choice: http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/espresso/appiaauto1group

In particular, the semi-automatic model.
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Postby hperry on Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:17 pm

Agreed on the Appia. As a matter of fact there was an Aurelia on Craigslist in Seattle several months ago for less that $4,000, so very high quality machines can be had from time-to-time at good prices.
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Postby Ericg13 on Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:08 pm

I wouldnt be opposed to buying used if it was something in great shape that I wouldn't have to do any work to. Also something easily serviceable is a good idea. I think the LM linea might take up a bit too much space but then again I would likely never need to upgrade.
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