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Rocky Rancilio vs. Mazzer

Postby guitaboyled on Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:42 pm

Is the Rancilio Rocky any good?
How does it compare to the Solis (Starbucks Barista)?
If I can get a used Rocky for $200 is it worth it or should I just invest the $150 extra and get a Mazzer
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Postby Sketcher on Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:41 am

I've been sniffing around for a first grinder myself and although the Rocky isn't well-loved like the big guns (i.e. Mazzer, Macap, etc), I haven't seen one for $200 and it's not a bad grinder... I guess it depends on the age and wear, new rockys can be had for about 50% more but they're not in the same class as a $400 grinder... It doesn't have to be your last grinder either, and I'd guess that in the future it'd make a great drip, decaf or press grinder for your next, bigger grinder if you ever upgrade...
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Postby Randy G. on Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:28 am

The Rocky is OK. The threads for the top burr carrier are low tolerance so they wobble. DO a search for "Rocky Teflon Tape Mod". The biggest problem is that it is not stepless. You will get a choice of two, or maybe three setting for espresso. Probably two. One click is worth about 4 seconds of extraction time from that grinder.

For the Oscar, look for a used grinder at a local restaurant supply store or from a reputable seller on eBay. For about $350, and at worst the additional cost of a new burr set, you will have a professional quality grinder that will last for a decade or three in home use.
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Postby homerepairbear on Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:56 pm

My first grinder was a Rancilio Rocky. It's a solid machine that will give years of service. Easy to operate, nothing digital to program, very easy to clean and maintain. I used mine for less than 2 years and upgraded to a Macap M4 stepless with doser. I miss the simplicity of the Rocky.
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Postby walshman on Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:41 am

I bought a Rocky and got rid of it after 6 months for a super jolly. Glad I did
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Postby cmelak on Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:38 am

I had Rocky for almost a year now and I just realised it is getting harder and harder to grind the coffee. When Rocky was new, I had it set to -2 to -3 for espresso and I could choke Silvia with it. Now (depending on the roast and dosing) I have to use -4 at least and 16g to portafilter to get the first drip after 4/5sec. I am not afraid to turn the settings down but it worries me a bit. When you dial -5 and the grinder is clean, motor have difficulties to turn the burr at all (obviously I do not hold the button for any period of time). I have on average one cup a day so wear and tear is negligible. My question would be: is there a better way to use Rocky or should I look for the replacement? I am willing to pay an extra money but unfortunately, I have only 40cm space under the kitchen cupboards.
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Postby HB on Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:46 am

cmelak wrote:I had Rocky for almost a year now and I just realised it is getting harder and harder to grind the coffee.

Is the coffee freshly roasted (and by this I don't mean "freshly opened")? Because stale coffee requires an excruciatingly fine grind to produce a reasonable pour time. It won't hurt the burrs or motor to grind with an ultra-fine setting, but you'll get better results with less mishaps if the coffee is 4-10 days post-roast.
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Postby cmelak on Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:09 pm

I have no means to check the roasting date on present batch but the beans looks very good. They are oozing the oil so much they are almost sticking together. I only reached this conclusion after knowing the roast date on previous coffee I had before. I know there is a huge difference between old and fresh beans.
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Postby HB on Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:19 pm

Eww-w. Oozing oil means they're overroasted, stale, or both. As coffee degases, oils are carried to the surface. If you wait long enough, some of the surface oils will evaporate, but I don't want to think about making espresso with it.

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Postby cmelak on Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:51 pm

Thank you for the video! That was very educational. Now, I have a doubts. I will contact the shop for more info but it looks like you are right.
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