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Picking the right bottled water pump

Postby itsallaroundyou on Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:15 pm

i'm in the market for a flojet type pump to run off of a 5 gal bottle, and was wondering what i should be looking for as far as features and performance. i would be using it with older manual fill commercial lever machines in the short term, but would like to have it be suitable (if possible) for a newer plumb-in vibe or rotary pump machine.



will this one do the job?
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are there other brands that i should consider?

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Postby stefano65 on Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:06 pm

That's what we also suggest to a lot of home user customers and is solid and easy to set up
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Postby itsallaroundyou on Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:18 pm

cool...thanks for the quick reply.....is that a reasonable price?
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Postby stefano65 on Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:36 pm

it is a very good price
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Postby HB on Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:04 pm

That's the Flojet system I use. To reduce the pump cycling, I use an accumulator:

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I needed to run two espresso machines from one Flojet and it worked very well too. Here are some other threads with more details: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (searched on 'accumulator').
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Postby itsallaroundyou on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:28 pm

thanks for the votes of confidence, and thanks dan for the tips on the accumulator, i've only heard them mentioned, but never knew what they were about. i went ahead and bought the flojet system. now to do some reading on accumulators :)
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Postby jpreiser on Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:15 pm

That's the Flojet system I'm using with my setup. I don't have the accumulator so the Flojet pump cycles quite a bit during extraction. This causes a pressure fluctuation on the espresso machine. I'm getting decent espresso this way but my barista skills (still learning) are likely a bigger factor in not getting stellar shots.

I haven't gotten the accumulator because I haven't decided yet if I want to leave it as a bottle-driven system or just plumb thing in. If I stay with the Flojet, I'll be getting an accumulator too.
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Postby HB on Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:55 pm

jpreiser wrote:I don't have the accumulator so the Flojet pump cycles quite a bit during extraction.

For those who are wondering what we're talking about, Jon's espresso machine used a Flojet without an accumulator in this video. You can hear it cycling through most of the extraction ("brr-r-r--r-r-rt... brr-r-r--r-r-rt") :

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Postby JonR10 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:46 pm

HB wrote:For those who are wondering what we're talking about, Jon's espresso machine used a Flojet without an accumulator in this video.



For contrast, here is the same machine with the same Flojet pulling a shot after the accumulator was added to the system. If you listen closely, you can hear the Flojet running continuously at the end of the cooling flush to charge the accumulator. The machine is then fed by the accumulator so (in this case) the flojet doesn't run at all during the shot.




EDIT: That's how an accumulator works to smooth the flow, by storing hydraulic power on the line. The machine is fed by the accumulator and the Flojet then just needs to maintain the fluid charge on the accumulator.
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Postby stefano65 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:12 pm

Accumulator is even better so the line will always stay pressurized in case you run out of water as well
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