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One Grinder for French Press and Espresso: recommendation?

Postby Ericc22 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:46 pm

Greetings,

I recently discovered the difference a good grinder makes, and am going to purchase one. I don't want to spend more than $250. I was aiming for a Baratza Virtuoso. I will use it mostly for drip and french press but do want the ability to use it for Espresso as I plan to buy an espresso machine soon.

Seems as if though the Virtuoso gets mixed reviews for Espresso. Are there any better options in this price range? I don't want to go much beyond my budget, and I just want one grinder. I know I am looking for something that covers a large range - coarse to fine.

I appreciate any and all suggestions!

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Postby zin1953 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:59 pm

The Baratza VARIO fits your needs to the proverbial "T," except for its price tag ($429). But if you aren't making espresso, the Baratza Virtuoso is a great choice. If and when you do buy an espresso machine, the Virtuoso can "cut it," but you'll need a better grinder if you really want to make great espresso . . .
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Postby Address7 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:02 pm

Apparently Baratza is introducing a new grinder this month that may suit your needs perfectly - it should retail around $275 and is described as 'a Virtuoso with the addition of a micro[grind] lever'. The HB thread is here New Baratza Grinder: Virtuoso Preciso $275

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Postby Ericc22 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:09 pm

Thanks for the response James. I read about that and it sounds great. But it is not available until June and I don't want to wait 3-4 months. I was hoping there was something available now. Any and all recommendations are most appreciated!

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Postby HB on Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:03 pm

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Postby Ericc22 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:24 pm

Thanks for the link. That is a great thread. Still seems as if the best options for me are beyond what I want to spend. If that is not the case, let me know. Thanks!
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Postby yakster on Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:48 pm

Eric,

That's a tough price point to get an all-in-one grinder that's going to perform well... I know, I've been looking myself. I was looking forward to the Baratza Virtuoso Preciso which has been pushed back until June and have been using a hand grinder (Kyocera) for espresso and a lousy grinder for everything else, but lately I've been thinking I might just swallow hard and buy a Vario after I get my tax return back.

You might be best served looking at a refurbished Baratza Maestro or Virtuoso paired with a nice hand grinder (vintage or new) for espresso.
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Postby Illyfex on Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:38 pm

I know it's beyond the parameters of the question (due to price), but I'd cast another vote for the Vario. It's a great, versatile grinder. I find it very easy to dial in the grind required for different methods (espresso, press) and between beans. Home espresso is not a cheap indulgence. I would forego a few restaurant dinners, movies, CDs, smokes or beers and save the extra pennies for the Vario.
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Postby graynotgrey on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:21 am

The Baratza Maestro Plus is very similar to the Virtuoso (plastic body versus metal body). It costs $169. It features a cone burr grinder with 40 settings ranging from French Press to Turkish. I have had one (formerly called Solis) for a about three years and the grind is very consistent. The Vario looks nice, but do you really need 230 micro grind settings, ceramic burrs and German belt drive transmission for a home grinder?

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http://www.baratza.com/comparison.php
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Postby Bluecold on Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:34 am

Nah, the Maestro is totally different. Different burrs, different mounting.
Also you don't need a German belt drive. Italian planetary reduction gears do just fine. 8)
And the more settings, the merrier. Ceramic burrs don't have demonstrable taste advantages though.
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