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Mazzer Major Capabilities

Postby Spitz.me on Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:54 am

So, I've been scouring around for Mazzer Major testimonials, reviews, etc and all I can find are bits and pieces of possibly helpful information. Which is the reason why this post now exists. I haven't been able to find what I feel is a 'good enough' resource on the capabilities of the Mazzer Major for home use compared to other high-level, big burr grinders.

Majors can be had for a pretty fair deal on the used market, but it seems Jolly's are the preferred Mazzer choice as they go for about the same price - from what I've witnessed.

I've read about consistency issues with the smaller burr sets. I want to move away from small burr sets, like in my Vario.

Can anyone give me some testimonials or information on how the Major performs with respect to grind consistency and home use?

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Postby Whale on Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:04 am

I should be receiving my used Major any day now. So I cannot comment on its performance yet but I will soon.

The main reason, I believe, that SJ are more popular is because there are 50 of them for each Major on the used market. They are also a bit more counter friendly.

Should you be in the Montreal region, you are welcome in for hands on experimentation on the Major! :D
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Postby samuellaw178 on Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:12 am

I have a Mazzer Major for almost half a year now. Up until now, I have tried quite a few grinders (Vario, Super Jolly, Capresso Infinity, Pharos, Preciso, Armin Trosser) and I actually think Mazzer major is the best grinder I've ever used. If I could only have one grinder, it would be my first choice, hands down. The only grinder that I wish I have tried are electronic titan conical grinders like K10, but I like my Major enough that I am not even tempted to 'upgrade' or start looking for one (Pharos did help to curb that curiosity).

As for Major, it grinds very quickly (probably too fast, I wish there's a way to slow it down), low ground retention if you single dose (0.2g+- using doser), and the taste, in my opinion, is just fantastic! It has been able to give me shots that send me to heaven repeatedly,from time to time, by bringing the best out from the beans. The rest of the time is probably just the Mano factor but hey, it's still very good! It might not get as much rave as titan conicals or Super Jolly, but I suspect that's because as mentioned, the availability was not as abundant as the others.

Grind consistency? You bet! Repeatability probably isn't that perfect if you go back and forth, but once you're dialed, it's excellent. For home use?It's a little huge and heavy, but if you don't use the hopper, it's totally acceptable. The doser, just like any other Mazzer, isn't sweeping very clean. So you need to do some minor mod to improve that. A doserless would be perfect, but it seems that it can't do it without channeling, at least with my ghetto doserless funnel(will have to revisit that). The build quality is the bomb here. Nothing even comes close. If you can score one used, definitely go for it!
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Postby RapidCoffee on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:03 pm

Whale wrote:The main reason, I believe, that SJ are more popular is because there are 50 of them for each Major on the used market.

+1. The grinders are quite similar, in performance and form factor. The Major is faster and seems to clump less (at least, based on my sample size of one).
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Postby Randy G. on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:19 pm

samuellaw178 wrote:....The only grinder that I wish I have tried are electronic titan conical grinders like K10, but I like my Major enough that I am not even tempted to 'upgrade' or start looking for one .

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Then DO NOT play with a Kony or Robur! Besides the ability of these behemoths to bring out some subtle, dare I say, hidden flavors, the benefit I have experienced is that they allow for a wider, useable range of adjustment to taste. That is compared to the Rocky, anyway.
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Postby hankua on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:40 pm

I got the Major as an upgrade to a Rocky, so of course that's night and day. Sold it to some friends opening a new cafe and it's front and center next to a brand new GB5 getting a proper work-out. It's fun to try different grinders and used Majors hold their value. At first I didn't replace the burrs as the grinder was in very nice condition, but got some later on and it did make a difference although break-in was a little slow. I cleaned the top threads on the Major with ethyl alcohol and coated them with a light food grade grease. Even still the Mazzer adjustment seemed jerky to me and not that repeatable. It's a good idea to replace the foam doser gasket or double it up if you take it apart.

I prefer the Pharos over the Major for light espresso use, my situation and replaced the Major and Mini grinders with a used Rossi 64mm doserless cafe grinder. The Major grinder is easy to keep clean and use, although the doser is huge.

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Postby Ben Z. on Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:47 pm

My progression went Rocky - SJ - Major. There were nearly identical "leaps" in terms of quality and ease of use. With the Major it's dose, tamp, pull. No distribution/declumping nonsense to mess around with.
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Postby EricBNC on Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:51 pm

Randy G. wrote:<cue deep bass line from jaws... "Duuhhh Duh...">
Then DO NOT play with a Kony or Robur! Besides the ability of these behemoths to bring out some subtle, dare I say, hidden flavors, the benefit I have experienced is that they allow for a wider, useable range of adjustment to taste. That is compared to the Rocky, anyway.

Too bad he didn't have a 68mm grinder available for comparison - oh, wait - he has a Pharos- guess he knows what plays - glad you can brag about besting a Rocky though...
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Postby Aaron on Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:36 pm

+1

Solid, consistent, huge. If you have the counter space then it's a wonderful grinder that delivers fantastic results.
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Postby samuellaw178 on Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Randy G. wrote:<cue deep bass line from jaws... "Duuhhh Duh...">
Then DO NOT play with a Kony or Robur! Besides the ability of these behemoths to bring out some subtle, dare I say, hidden flavors, the benefit I have experienced is that they allow for a wider, useable range of adjustment to taste. That is compared to the Rocky, anyway.


Deep inside I definitely wants to play with the titans. But the rationale part of me knows that as a student, it's not plausible, at least for now, and they don't come used and cheap like Mazzers do. And I know Pharos albeit having a titan conical burrs, MAY not be the real thing itself. But it does come REALLY close, if not better/worse, to the titan electrical counterpart, from other experienced users anyway. And lastly, I think with decent grinders like Major, you would get much more substantial improvement with better beans, machines and skills(the next limiting factors).

It probably boils down to individual taste profile preference anyhow. And this was from my experience. I tried both and I think they are equally good but a little different. If I have to choose one, it's definitely the Major because of my preference, no doubt. There could be a possibility that I am not using my Pharos to its potential? I always had this worry that not every grinder is created equal, some is better than the other even of the same model/brand. Anyhow, I digressed. :P The point I am trying to make is the Major is definitely a very capable grinder. I don't think anyone would be upset by its performance except for its humongous size.

A Major can sometimes be found at the $400-500 easily and even less sometimes. For that price, I think it's a way much better bang for the buck than a new Vario. Plus, they will last longer than a brand new Vario if not abused.
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