by selah on Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:43 pm
I have used Saeco Incanto, Jura Capresso S9. Lots of issues with both.
the Incantos were about $1500 each. I had 2 and they both are in the trash.
The S9 is about $2500 and makes latte/cappuccinos with 1 touch of a button. I sent 2 back under warranty.
Bottom line:
The mechanisms for grinding, tamping, and making espresso in both machines are the same. Everything is plastic. The espressos aren't going to be great, don't buy one for greatness, buy it for simplicity.
The automatic milk frothing machines use steam to siphon milk. Ask any of your engineer friends if the milk will be hot enough with one-pass steam siphon. I've had multiple technicians on the phone from Jura and DeLonghi, and finally they said "the single biggest problem you will have with these automatic frothing machines is temperature." The highest cappuccino cup temperature, following owners manual instructions was 135F. Thats like LUKE WARM!! The highest temp cappuccino following "technician tweaking advice" was 160F. Lattes were coming in at 127F and 160F.
If you think you can get a hot latte from these machines with a press of a button you won't. If you throttle the steam valve you can achieve hot drinks, but then again why would you pay $2500 for a 1-touch machine that you'll have to hand-throttle?