Anyone else see this listing? While these aren't normally permitted, I'm pretty sure Dan will let it ride due to how rare these are. Any guess as to what it will bring? I'll give a WAG of $5,500.

I am not in any way affiliated with the seller.



Cross-posted on CG

What's the knob under the steam valve? Is it the fill valve?

This is a GS series machine. Actually GS2 Series 1 group machine. The GS2 series is identified by the chrome side plates and the GS2 style valve handles. Although the 2, 3, and 4 group models came with a different style body, the 1 group GS2 remained very similar to the GS (1) series.The knob under the steam wand is the steam valve and the knob on top is the cup heater valve. The cup heater is essentially a steam wand under the cups. It is a copper tube with a bunch of holes drilled into it and when you turn on the valve the cups get steamed.

Just at first glance, he machine looks like it was rebuilt and was done pretty good.

Bill C

Thank you, Bill, for the clarification and explanation. It does, however, raise -- at least for me -- one more question . . .

Billc wrote:The knob under the steam wand is the steam valve and the knob on top is the cup heater valve. The cup heater is essentially a steam wand under the cups. It is a copper tube with a bunch of holes drilled into it and when you turn on the valve the cups get steamed.

Interesting design, but wouldn't that leave the cups wet (or at least moist) on the inside from condensation? And how would that affect the espresso?

Cheers,
Jason

Jason,
Don't forget, these machines were designed in the 70's and specialty coffee was not there yet. Yes the cups did get wet and there was a drain line on the cup tray to get rid of the water. The cups don't get to wet but there is some moisture on them.

Bill C

zin1953 wrote:Interesting design, but wouldn't that leave the cups wet (or at least moist) on the inside from condensation? And how would that affect the espresso?

Don't most folks warm their cups by filling them with brew temperature water and then emptying them? I wouldn't think that would affect the espresso any differently than the moisture from this design.

Billc wrote:This is a GS series machine. Actually GS2 Series 1 group machine. The GS2 series is identified by the chrome side plates and the GS2 style valve handles. Although the 2, 3, and 4 group models came with a different style body, the 1 group GS2 remained very similar to the GS (1) series.The knob under the steam wand is the steam valve and the knob on top is the cup heater valve. The cup heater is essentially a steam wand under the cups. It is a copper tube with a bunch of holes drilled into it and when you turn on the valve the cups get steamed.

Just at first glance, he machine looks like it was rebuilt and was done pretty good.

Bill C

I have a GS which I use every day and have since about '85. I've never totally understood the model designation. My frontplate just has "GS" on the "Serie" line. The serial number "HF" is 11682. So is it a series (1) or just a GS?
Bernie

geoffbeier wrote:Don't most folks warm their cups by filling them with brew temperature water and then emptying them? I wouldn't think that would affect the espresso any differently than the moisture from this design.

I dunno, I don't need to warm my cups by filling them with hot water. Ever feel a cup that's been sitting atop an Elektra for an hour or so?

I would rather be concerned about the result of warmth and humidity in the cups sitting on top of the machine. It is a way to grow something, isn't it?

CoffeeOwl wrote:I would rather be concerned about the result of warmth and humidity in the cups sitting on top of the machine. It is a way to grow something, isn't it?

The steam warmer is sexy. I don't use it except when I have company and then it's just a little added show. If the machine is fully warmed up the cups aren't going to get any warmer by cranking up the cup steamer, but it does add a bit of pizzazz that other machines might not.

Bernie