Is there a similar thread to How to choose an espresso machine and grinder at the "right" price for used equipment for a starting business (well wannabe a starting one that is)?

I guess my question is what used equipment (both Espresso machine and a grinder) proved to be reliable enough over a few years of service that if I'm set out to buying it, I will have a decent use of it without spending too much time maintaining or fixing it?

I am thinking of operating a small Espresso bar within an existing business and I am looking to buy a 2 group machine with 2 good grinders. Any recommendations?
I've tried to look for similar posts and didn't come up with much. I would appreciate ranking of such equipment too.

My next question will be working with the favorite roaster. I would probably need recommendations. Appreciate your insight.

gedit wrote:I am thinking of operating a small Espresso bar within an existing business and I am looking to buy a 2 group machine with 2 good grinders. Any recommendations?

A better place for finding people with experience with used equipment in a retail environment would be: http://www.baristaexchange.com.

Thank you both.Good ideas. Cheers!

My recommendation after 15 years of operating an espresso bar, several carts and an espresso bar is that if you are not adept at machine diagnosis and repair you not purchase a used machine that you are not able to observe operating. The exception would be if someone or a business is offering some guarantee so if the machine has a catastrophic failure in the first few weeks you can get your money returned. Good luck.