Anyone every try out the Everpure ESO Cartridge that claim:
* Buffering
* Chlorine Reduction
* Cyst Reduction
* Ion Exchange
* Iron Reduction
* Particulate Reduction
* Scale Control
* Taste & Odor
* TDS Reduction
* Water Softening/Conditioning
Capacity: 470 gallons @ 150 ppm
Maximum Flow: 0.5 gpm (1.9 Lpm)

Of particular interest is the claim for Espresso use, relatively small size in the cabinet and ease of use. The price is a bit high, but other Internet deals are at least significantly less than list price.

Profesional Model Head

This has been prompted by Tom's (DSC) new under the sink Everpure filter.
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Mark

Interesting; they claim that a "small amount of carbon filtered water bypasses softening resin to allow proper initial hardness" as well as TDS reduction. That could be very good, I think. One of the weaknesses of an ion exchange softener is that it removes too much hardness for what is considered "optimal" for espresso. Having a preconfigured device that bleeds filtered but unsoftened water with the softened water is a convenient solution to the problem.

They sound like really nice filters; it's hard to say if it's a cost-effective solution.

shadowfax wrote:They sound like really nice filters; it's hard to say if it's a cost-effective solution.

Hmmm, compared to the cost of coffee bean, grinders and espresso machines, it's not out of line. I'm not unhappy with my current softener and more standard large filters, but a slim in the back of the sink system is kinda of appealing. I wonder how this water would be for my fridge and steam assisted oven?

Mark

The Everpure bypass design is a clever mixing solution. But I have no idea whether it is more effective for home use than the $50 Bunn EQ-17, designed for light commercial coffee use: http://www.jumpingforjava.com/servlet/the-107/Bunn-EQ-dsh-17-dsh-TL-Easy-Clear/Detail.

This is the system I have. It works beautifully, the only problem was for the installation, the total height of the head and the ESO cartridge was such that I coud not fit it under the kitchen counter (not wanting to cut the counter shelves...), so it had to go in the basement, and a rather long length of tubing was necessary.

At least in the basement, I have direct access to it.

Marshall wrote:The Everpure bypass design is a clever mixing solution. But I have no idea whether it is more effective for home us than the $50 Bunn EQ-17, designed for light commercial coffee use: http://www.jumpingforjava.com/servlet/the-107/Bunn-EQ-dsh-17-dsh-TL-Easy-Clear/Detail.

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Marshal: Significantly less expensive, I wish the Bunn web site explained a little more what it does.

Mark

jk0592 wrote:This is the system I have. It works beautifully, the only problem was for the installation, the total height of the head and the ESO cartridge was such that I could not fit it under the kitchen counter (not wanting to cut the counter shelves...), so it had to go in the basement, and a rather long length of tubing was necessary.

At least in the basement, I have direct access to it.

Living on a slab would make this kinda tough. I do enough weird stuff already for my espresso, digging a hole in the floor wouldn't go over well. I see that they can also mount horizontally, I've a 36" cabinet, so it could be an option.

Mark

It looks like the whole thing would be less-than 25"" high, so should fit under most sinks.

mhoy wrote:Marshal: Significantly less expensive, I wish the Bunn web site explained a little more what it does.

Things I care about:
1. What comes out of the exit end of the filter.
2. Cost of ownership (including filter replacements).
3. Ease of replacing filters.
4. Longevity.

Things I don't care about:
1. What goes on inside the filter, provided it doesn't adversely affect what comes out of the filter (see#1 above).

More, specifically, I would like to know how much hardness is reduced by each filter and their relative performance on things that affect taste and smell. I haven't any useful information about this on either filter, beyond that they both reduce chlorine smell, hardness and some other unpleasant things.

Bunn (the Bunnomatic Corp.) are major players (with big R&D operations) in the coffee world. So, given the price difference, I would lean toward Bunn.