espresso machines at 1st-line.com

Espresso machine to match new Macap M7D grinder

Postby Lonny on Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:16 pm

Here's a shot of my new grinder. I haven't tried it yet, but I can tell you it's going to be a beast. I'm impressed, and that's NOT the word to describe my wife. She'll get used to it (i hope) They forgot to send me the shorter bean hopper, and I think that will help on the "WOW.... That's a biga$$ grinder" You can see the kitchenaid looks like a shrimp compared to the macap.

Now all I need is to make up my mind on which espresso machine to get. I've narrowed it down between the Mini Vivaldi II by La Spaziale or Alex Duetto II by Izzo. It has to be a pour over model. Maybe I can get some input from some of you folks.

Image
Lonny
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Oct 28, 2010
Location: Bridge City, Texas

Postby Beezer on Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:12 pm

Nice grinder! In the picture, it looks like there's a turkey sticking out of the hopper. Very seasonal.

As for which machine you should buy, either one would serve you well. There seem to be a lot of happy Vivaldi owners here and on the Vivaldi forum. Also, with the automatic dosing feature the Vivaldi should be easier for your wife to use, if that's a consideration. Just based on the track record of reliability and ease of use, I'd go with the Vivaldi. But that's just my personal choice, and it's not my money that's on the line.
Lock and load!
Beezer
 
Posts: 917
Joined: Nov 16, 2006
Location: Fresno, CA
www.evocationcoffee.com: artisan roaster with passion for great coffee
www.evocationcoffee.com: artisan roaster with passion for great coffee

Postby cafeIKE on Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:50 pm

Black Grinder? Vivaldi fer shoor :wink:
User avatar
cafeIKE
 
Posts: 3011
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Woodland Hills, CA

Postby Lonny on Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:46 pm

I was in a hurry to snap a few shots, and didn't look at the surroundings that much. The turkey is actually a cling on the glass panel of the cabinet door. I think I will go ahead and go with the Vivaldi. I originally didn't like all the plastic on the Vivaldi. But trying to find real life issues with it or the larger model is for the most part non existent. I really like the water reservor location on the mini, easy to get to. Does anyone know if the water softener is really necessary for bottled water? What kind of bottled water? Walmart spring water? Distilled water? All I have is the grinder, which is a good start, what else will I need? What kind of tamper? Flat or convex? Bottomless port-a-filter? Btw.. What will a bottomless port-a-filter do for me? Milk pitcher size? Too many questions.... I know
Lonny
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Oct 28, 2010
Location: Bridge City, Texas


Postby Lonny on Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:30 pm

I apologize Dan. Nothing short of being lazy on my end. I guess going specifically with the Vivaldi mini, maybe I needed some specialized accessories. I'll watch it in the future. Thank you for the search results.
Lonny
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Oct 28, 2010
Location: Bridge City, Texas

Postby HB on Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:41 pm

I understand it's an overwhelming amount of information.

Perusing the Buyer's Guide to the La Spaziale Vivaldi II may be the best place to start since it covers the specifics. Members of the s1cafe will certainly have other specifics to share. For example, I prefer 12 ounce pitchers, but some are partial to 20 ounces to slow things down on the Vivaldi; others prefer the slower 4-hole 0.9mm tip that was discussed here.
Dan Kehn
User avatar
HB
 
Posts: 13152
Joined: Apr 29, 2005
Location: Cary, NC

Postby chipman on Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:52 am

Lonny wrote:I originally didn't like all the plastic on the Vivaldi.


Keeping the polished stainless steel looking nice and shiny is a real pain. My next machine will probably be a Vivaldi, and the plastic sides is one of the the reasons I like that machine.
chipman
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Apr 28, 2008
Location: San Bruno, Ca

Postby cafeIKE on Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:59 am

chipman wrote:Keeping the polished stainless steel looking nice and shiny is a real pain. My next machine will probably be a Vivaldi, and the plastic sides is one of the the reasons I like that machine.

My first machine was a plastic body Solis SL-90. The Viv was on the upgrade short list until I saw its plastic body for real.

The plating quality can affect a stainless machine. After almost 5 years, other than a few marks on the drip tray, the Vibiemmes look brand new. A simple wipe down with a soft towel is all the maintenance required.
User avatar
cafeIKE
 
Posts: 3011
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Woodland Hills, CA

Postby Beezer on Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:44 pm

The 0.9 mm tip is now standard on the Mini I believe. Having used the same wand on my Anita, I can tell you it makes getting microfoam incredibly fast and easy.

I always use Crystal Geyser bottled water in my machine, based on Jim's insanely long water FAQ. Apparently it has the right amount of minerals to allow the machine to work properly and still avoid excessive scale buildup. But I still descale once a year anyway, just to be sure.

I don't think you can go wrong with the Mini. Enjoy your new machine, whichever one you end up getting.
Lock and load!
Beezer
 
Posts: 917
Joined: Nov 16, 2006
Location: Fresno, CA


Return to Buying Advice