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Postby HB on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:49 pm

Jim P. allegedly wrote:I am a little surprised as the Spaz ia really not that great a machine. even the HB site owner stated this....

Keep in mind this comment comes from someone with a vested financial interest in a competitive offering. That said, he's probably thinking about the original Buyer's Guide to the La Spaziale S1, written over 4 years ago. It was rated 8.0 / 9.0 / 9.5 / 9.5 (Exceptional Espresso, Morning After, Cappuccino Lover's, Convenience & Features), which hardly qualifies as being panned. The review has since been updated and the Exceptional Espresso was increased 0.5 point for reasons Ian explains in the conclusion.
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Postby Michal on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:51 pm

HE SELLS THE VIVALDI LOL!!!! :D :D :D
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Postby HB on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:53 pm

No Michal, he resells the Vivaldi purchased from the master distributor, Chris' Coffee Service.
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Postby Michal on Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:58 pm

Ohhhh..... That makes WAY more sense now. Thanks! :idea:
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Postby JohnB. on Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:25 pm

HB wrote:No Michal, he resells the Vivaldi purchased from the master distributor, Chris' Coffee Service.


Looking at Jim's site I only see the Vivaldi S1V1 which I'd have to guess he is either bringing in from Europe or he still has a stock of these older machines. Chris has been importing & distributing only the S1V2 version since it was introduced to the best of my knowledge.
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Postby DigMe on Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:06 pm

sjjan wrote:I took some pictures yesterday of the internals of the Brewtus III (see bottom part of http://www.home-barista.com/espre...afilter-t9530.html). The OPV has indeed been updated and is not of plastic anymore (the adjustment screw). I have never seen the inside of a Brewtus II, so I cannot compare.

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I was surprised to hear anyone saying that the new Brewts are still using a nylon adjustment plunger. They switched over to using all-metal OPVs at least two years ago. I hope that there are no vendors who are still telling people that Expobars use the nylon plunger OPVs as a selling point for their competing machines.

The new all-metal OPV was pictured and discussed in this thread:
http://www.home-barista.com/espre...ittings-t3186.html

I think they made the switch for the Pulser line as well. The new all-metal OPV can be ordered from WLL for anyone who wishes to replace it on their Pulser or older Brewtus.

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Postby Michal on Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:23 pm

HB wrote:Chris' Coffee makes a big point of the fact that others use a lower grade stainless steel. I don't think it will lead to the Expobars rusting away, but it is true that the higher grade stainless looks more silvery and shinier, if that matters to you.


Don't they both use 304?
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Postby malachi on Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:51 pm

malachi wrote:for 99% of buyers - none of these machines will be the gating item
thus the choice is largely an emotional, personal and somewhat irrational one

wrapping this reality in technical detail doesn't change the fundamental truth
"Taste is the only morality." -- John Ruskin
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Postby Michal on Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:41 pm

I understand but I don't want false information floating around.
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Postby shadowfax on Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:43 pm

Michal wrote:I understand but I don't want false information floating around.


Oh no!

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