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Do you think that the Mazzer Super Jolly will be good for home use?

Postby Coffee10 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:45 pm

hay all

i am starting to search for my new grinder, today i have the imini and ecm giotto.
i have a good Bid for the super jolly- really good.. but i am really cant decide if it will be good for home use?

it will grind 10 cups a day.
I usually set myself as a crazy coffee addict, and i don't find the doser as a bad thing- but i don't think i will go and storage in the doser coffee.

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Postby jammin on Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:02 pm

The Super Jolly is a timeless classic. With a little google search you can turn up countless pages on it. There are several, simple mods you can do to it to enhance it's usability as well. If you can pick one up for a good price, you won't lose any money re-selling if you decide it's not the grinder for you. To simply answer your question though, yes, it will be good for home use.


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Postby Coffee10 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:17 pm

Thank you very much for the quick reply.

i was reading in some websites that its not the best choice for home use because of its burr size..
they were writing there that this grinder left a lot of ground coffee in the burr area.
because of that i have some lack of decision.

thank you ...

how can i replace the original been hopper to the one in the mini mazzer?
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Postby HB on Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:31 pm

Unlike the Baratza Vario, the Super Jolly does leave a fair amount of coffee behind. If that bothers you, it can be swept out easily with a brush (and a few motor pulses if single dosing). As for the hopper, the stock Mini hopper fits and there's various DIY models described in the forums.
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Postby espressojr on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:13 pm

i've been quite happy with mine the last few years.

per extra coffee grounds: do a search for the 'sweeper mod' to help sweep out (hence the name ;-) the grounds on the floor of the doser. I use mine usually for a shot at a time- what i do is to: grind the beans, open the doser cover and brush out the grounds, run the grinder to shoot out what is left and then dose.... I weigh the beans before putting in the hopper and when they are in the portafilter and there is no discernible difference (at least with my scale).

i'd say go for it
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Postby stefano65 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:28 pm

It is a good grinder
BUT might be a overkill for home use
it will certainly last you forever.......
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Postby Coffee10 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:05 am

thank you all..
i am think i will buy the grinder and make some adjustments - timer, Doser Attachment

i hope it will be good in the end.. but i am sure that the coffee will be better with the mazzer :lol:
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Postby Sherman on Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:20 am

I have been very happy with my Super Jolly, but have made a few modifications to get to this point. I've removed the doser and hopper, then purchased a few household parts and cut them with my rotary tool (Dremel) to fit together. The result is a bulletproof single-dose grinder with almost NO WASTE that will handle anything I throw at it. After working with this grinder for a period of time, I am now comfortable making consistent adjustments for different coffees, and can dial in a shot for correct flow within 2-3 attempts. Correcting for taste is another matter :D.

As a case in point, I am currently pulling shots on some home roasted Yirgacheffe; 5 days after roast, 15.5g at "G 0.5" setting is what I wrote in my notes in January 2011, when I dialled in the shots. I set the grinder, weighed out the dose, and was able to pull a shot that, to my memory and according to my notes, was consistent with what I tasted in January.

Combined with my approach to espresso (i.e. single-dose, weighing before & after grind, grinding into basket), I will not be upgrading until someone drops a Compak K10 in my lap.

That said, If I had to do it all over again, I would've bought the Baratza Vario home grinder. I've had the chance to use it, and find it to be similar in performance. It has a much smaller footprint, and looks more like it belongs in a home setting. Then again, I haven't had the luxury of an extended test similar to what I described above, so I can't speak to the ability of a Vario to be as consistent. The tradeoff is that it's made for the home market and may not be as robust, but in the timeline and usage characteristics of a home environment, I don't know that this is significant. Also, the Vario hasn't been around long enough for any hard data on durability to be collected and examined.

Baratza's customer service is well regarded. This is significant, as the general method of acquiring a SJ is through a failed cafe or some other secondhand route. This means that you're responsible for any maintenance, which is fine if you consider yourself mechanically inclined, but not so advantageous if you prefer to leverage customer service relationships.
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Postby Coffee10 on Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:32 pm

Update:
I check the jolly, it in great condition but it dont have the tray, and I think it will need new burrs..
So I do the math and I so far get that prices:
New burrs: 55$
Tray:60$
Elvinator for the doser:10$
Mini hopper:60$

I really want the try, I fill like it is not a mazzer without the try..
The hopper is not so "you need to buy"..
165$ before tax and shipping,
The jolly price:350$

I am starting to think may be I will buy a new mazzer mini doser ver?? (650$)

What do you think??
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