Bluecold wrote: Then I empty the doser in my basket and weigh.

So, you dose directly into your basket, but do you pull the basket out of the portafilter to do your dosing?

bluecold wrote: After each session I empty my doser in the stale coffee box which is used for the morning sinkshot.

That is a great tip.

bgn wrote:So, you dose directly into your basket, but do you pull the basket out of the portafilter to do your dosing?

If I'm weighing my doses, I just remove the spring clip from my portafilter. You can remove the basket and dose into it, but I prefer to just dose and then remove it from the portafilter to weigh.

I have knocking out pucks without a spring clip in place down to an art. I just hold my thumb over the edge of the basket.

If you use a ridgeless basket you can slide it in and out easily without removing the clip. I dose outside of the portafilter and then slide it in when it is ready. It also allows me to do my cooling flush with the portafilter in place and the basket on the side ready to go.

da gino wrote:If you use a ridgeless basket you can slide it in and out easily without removing the clip.

More easily is probably a better description. It still bugs me more than just thumbing the basket, now that I'm used to it.

I use the ridgeless Synesso baskets & even with the spring in the p/f they pop right out with minor thumb pressure or a light tap.

Me, too. I use ridgeless Synesso baskets (actually, I think they're Gaggia), and with the spring in place within the portafilter, they pop right out with minor thumb pressure.

Cheers,
Jason

Add me to the list of people dosing directly into a ridgeless basket. I weigh the beans with a Triton T2 0.1g scale and dump them in the throat of the grinder. I make sure there isn't a bean on top of the burr nut, then place a Spice Island spice jar in the throat to keep the beans from popcorning. Then I place the scale on the forks of the K10, put the basket on the scale, and put an Orphan Espresso dosing funnel in the basket. I tare the scale and dose into the basket while spinning it for even distribution (the K10 doser throws a tad to the left, even with the tape mod.) I remove the basket and funnel, fill gaps and level the coffee with a finger if necessary, put the basket in the naked PF, and tamp. Incidentally I use a different gram scale on the drip tray of my machine to measure the extraction weight of the pull. I'd use the T2, but the other scale protects itself better from moisture.

I know that, along with all the sweeping and pulsing, this sounds like a pain and a lot of work to many of you. But it's really not that bad and takes just a few extra seconds to do. It's certainly not a problem for my personal daily shots and milk drinks, but it does tend to complicate matters when making drinks for a crowd. If the crowd is large enough, I can use the mini-hopper and skip weighing the beans, at the price of wasting a small amount of coffee. It's when I need to make, say, four drinks that the procedure is cumbersome. But I still do it on order to serve the best possible coffee to my guests.

jammin wrote:bored, so I went and ground one to explain. cell phone video so the quality is crummy...

Great video! thanks. the k10 looks really nice. I think this pretty much explains why people are willing to pay quite a bit more for a timed, doserless grinder, or are at least looking for a viable option with these features. For people like me that just don't want this ritual anymore. Some people love it, other's don't. The k-10 took about 3 seconds to grind the shot (15g?) but it took 90 seconds before the tamp was done.