Cheapest Espresso Machine with Rotary Pump

by **saepl** on Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:55 pm

Hello,

I know that some of the nicer machines come with rotary pumps, but I can't seem to find any info on the cheapest machine that has a rotary pump. Any ideas?

by **akallio** on Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:11 pm

Rotary pump and low price do not go hand in hand, for many reasons.

I would imagine the cheapest might be Izzo or Expobar. Quickly googling, it seems that Expobar Brewtus III-R is more expensive than Izzo Alex (not Duetto).

by **Bluecold** on Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:24 pm

Cheapest way to get a rotary pump is to retrofit vibe-pump equipped low-end model. Either way, I'm curious to why you ask this question.

by **Randy G.** on Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:41 pm

Do you have some compelling reason to shop this way? Best would be to find the machine that best suits your needs within your budget.

by **saepl** on Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:45 pm

It's not that I am "shopping" Just curious. I understand that rotary machines are more expensive. I just want to know why. By knowing the cheapest machine I hoping to gain an understanding of what was sacrificed on the machine to put a rotary pump in - maybe nothing. So why are they so expensive? I can't imagine the pump itself is that much more money.

by **miKe mcKoffee** on Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:41 am

saepl wrote:It's not that I am "shopping" Just curious. I understand that rotary machines are more expensive. I just want to know why. By knowing the cheapest machine I hoping to gain an understanding of what was sacrificed on the machine to put a rotary pump in - maybe nothing. So why are they so expensive? I can't imagine the pump itself is that much more money.

Rotary is two parts, the pump itself and a separate electric motor. Substantially more expensive than a vibe pump, hundreds more. Also substantially more robust and hence used in virtually all commercial machines.

by **akallio** on Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:26 am

And because rotary pump machines typically are commercial machines, they also carry commercial pricing. Squeezing away the last hundred or so from the price tag is not as important as in consumer market.

by **saepl** on Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:39 am

Ok. thanks for the clarification. Is it possible to (theoretically) retrofit any vibe machine to rotary (assuming you have the room inside, etc)?

by **RapidCoffee** on Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:06 am

Currently, the "original" Quick Mill Vetrano (Chris Coffee) and Fiorenzato Bricoletta/Volante (1st-line) are among the lowest-priced rotary pump machines, clocking in at about $1500.

Yes, "theoretically" you could do a retrofit. "Practically" is another question entirely.

by **saepl** on Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:13 pm

Do rotary pumps have to come with direct connections?

Is changing a vibe machine to a rotary machine consist of changing the pump and adding a motor or is there more to it?

Again, it's not like it's practical, but it is informative!


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