Hi, I have a possibility to purchase a MAZZER Super Jolly a cheap price (less than 100$). Currently the grinder is located in France and as I will go there for Christmas I can it pick and bring back to Canada.

It seems to be an old model but the vendor was not able to tell me the fabrication year.

I have attached the picture, the hopper doesn't look like the one we currently see on Super Jolly, so if someone is able to give me any info regarding the model / year ; would be nice.

According to this, do you think burrs are all the same for the Super Jolly or it depends on the year ? and if it is the case , are they difficult to find ?

And a last question, do you think it could be a good deal ? I will still have my Vario but want it as a secondary grinder.



Thanks

Got 220v

$100 is a steal, if it works...

I already have a big stepdown transfo 110 to 220V, as we still have some French appliances following our move to Canada...

Any idea on the year ?

It looks to have the raised throat area where the hopper mounts which started around 1995 or so & the side exit power cord was used until 2003 or 2004. If the seller can give you the serial number off that ID decal the first two numbers should tell you the year.

My previous grinder was that exact model of Super Jolly. It's actually pretty nice since it's a few cm lower than the newer model and hence fit better under kitchen cupboards. It's a bit noisier then the newer model though.

It served me very well for more than a year and I sold it for the same price I bought it for. That's nearly almost always the case with Mazzer grinders - if you look after them you can always sell them again for a good price, cause they just keep on working like forever in a home setup.

Burrs are the same for all the SJ models - 64 mm flat.

One of the things you might want to take into account, is that European 220V has a frequency of 50Hz, while the US frequency (for both 110V and 220V, given that 110V is just a single phase of the 220V feed), is 60Hz.

The motor inside the Super Jolly (according to the schematics I found here http://www.rosito-bisani.com/oscommerce/JOLLY_COFFEE_GRINDER.pdf) seem to be the kind where the rotational speed is proportional to the line frequency.

That means your European Super Jolly, when used on a 220V feed in the USA, will spin 20% faster than a similar SJ with a 110V,60Hz motor. If that's a problem or not, I'm not sure (would it heat the grounds more?)

Unless you replace the motor with a US one, that is this would also make it easier to sell it down the line

In theory is possible to buy a step up transformer that also converts frequency, but I'm pretty sure that a new motor would be cheaper, at that point

How sure are you that 60hz Mazzers sold over here don't also spin 20% faster than the equivalent model made for 50hz? From the few sites I've found that actually list the RPM spec for Mazzers, they list the higher RPM for the 60hz models.

Has anyone in this forum actually tested this with one of those laser RPM meters?

The specs I've found from Mazzer show the SJ and Major spin at 1400 (50hz) and 1600 (60hz).

How sure are you that 60hz Mazzers sold over here don't also spin 20% faster than the equivalent model made for 50hz?

Not sure at all I never looked into it, but as an Italian living in the US I saw a lot of problems when it comes to 50Hz vs 60Hz motors, and I thought I'd point it out

I assumed that since the motors are listed as 110V/60Hz and 220V/50Hz, the manufacturer had taken this into account. But it's entirely possible that the motors are are same, just with different windings, and that would cause the US models to spin 20% faster.

It wouldn't be the first time that I'm technically correct and factually wrong